William George Pape
M, b. 18 August 1883, d. July 1964
William George Pape was born on 18 August 1883 at New York, New York Co., NY.1,2,3 He married Margaret Kammerdener, daughter of Adam Kammerdiener and Anna Kunigunda Schmidt, on 5 September 1909 at New York Co., NY.4 William George Pape was a finisher in a silver shop between 1910 and 1930. He lived in 1942 at 117-33 196th St., St. Albans, Queens Co., NY.1 He died in July 1964 at age 80.2
Family | Margaret Kammerdener b. 30 Jan 1886 |
Amelia Wolf
F, b. circa 1862, d. 17 August 1924
Father | Richard Wolf |
Mother | Rosina Bitzer |
Charts | Ottilia Hartenstein Kammerdiener Family |
Amelia Wolf also went by the name of Molly. She was born circa 1862 at NY.1 She lived on 9 August 1885 at 120 Sheriff St., New York, New York Co., NY.2 She married John Kammerdiener, son of Godfrey Kammerdiener and Ottilia Hartenstein, on 9 August 1885 at New York, New York Co., NY.2,3,4 Amelia Wolf died on 17 August 1924 at Queens Co., NY.5 She was buried on 20 August 1924 at Green-Wood Cemetery, Brooklyn, Kings Co., NY.6
John Kammerdiener had an interesting life history that can be documented from a variety of sources. He enlisted for service in the Civil War with Company F, 62nd Regiment New York Infantry (Anderson's Zouaves). He was mustered in on 3 Jul 1861 at Saltersville, near Jersey City, New Jersey, at the age of 24 years. His service and pension records are available from the National Archives.7 According to his service record, he served as a waggoner in the quartermaster's department. While on a march from Hancock, Maryland he deserted on 28 Oct 1862, taking his arms and equipment. John was enumerated on a list of deserters on 20 Mar 1863, indicating his probable whereabouts as Willet Street in New York City. This almost positively identifies him with this family, since that is where they lived according to several documented sources.
On 26 August 1864 a John Kammerdiener enlisted at Alliance, Ohio for one year. The papers indicated that he was born in New York City about 1836, which is correct for this person. He was married on 30 August to Rachael Hofmann, and the following day they sold a parcel of land that Rachael had received from her father to her brother. He mustered in to Company K, 115th Regiment Ohio Infantry at Columbus, Ohio on 3 Feb 1865. He only served until 22 Jun 1865, when he was mustered out at Murfreesboro, Tennessee. John and Rachael bought the same land back from her brother in Jun of 1866.
While one might question whether these two are the same person, consider the circumstances. Many other immigrants from the Herschberg, Germany area settled in Stark County, Ohio, just north of Alliance, in the 1830s. John's aunt and uncle, Louisa and Michael Dreher, lived there with their two sons. A John Kammerdiener was found in the 1870 census of Stark County with his new wife, Rachael Hofmann, whose parents were also immigrants from the same area. The widow's pension record for John's second wife mentions the first wife Rachael. I am most certain that John first enlisted for the Civil War in New York City. When he deserted his unit, it is possible that he went to Ohio to be with his relatives, and to avoid prosecution in New York City. Apparently later in the war he had second thoughts and reenlisted.
John's later life can be documented from his pension file and the widow's pension file of his second wife, as well as New York City records. Apparently John and Rachael moved back to New York City after 1870, where they divorced in 1883. Rachael sold her land in Stark County in December of 1883. I could not find them in the 1880 census of New York City or Stark County. John married Amelia Wolf in 1885 in New York City and they had at least one child. There is no indication that he had any children with Rachel.
In 1890 John began to apply for a disability pension, but for several years failed to convince the government that he qualified. His address changed frequently during the years 1890 - 1900, but they were all locations close to Willet Street in the German 11th ward of the city. By 1900 he had already been receiving a pension, since he filed for an increase at that time. At his death in 1910 he was being paid $20 per month.
After John's death, his second wife Amelia applied for a widows pension for herself and a minor child. She initially had trouble getting approval, because there was some question about the legality of their marriage while John's first wife Rachael was living. After Rachael's death in 1904, there was a question about whether John and Amelia ever legalized their marriage. Regardless, Amelia's application was finally accepted and she received up to $30 per month at the time of her death. At that time she was living in Malden, Massachusetts, which is where their son John lived with his wife. I have not been able to discover whether there were any descendents from John Kammerdiener, Jr.
John Kammerdiener had an interesting life history that can be documented from a variety of sources. He enlisted for service in the Civil War with Company F, 62nd Regiment New York Infantry (Anderson's Zouaves). He was mustered in on 3 Jul 1861 at Saltersville, near Jersey City, New Jersey, at the age of 24 years. His service and pension records are available from the National Archives.7 According to his service record, he served as a waggoner in the quartermaster's department. While on a march from Hancock, Maryland he deserted on 28 Oct 1862, taking his arms and equipment. John was enumerated on a list of deserters on 20 Mar 1863, indicating his probable whereabouts as Willet Street in New York City. This almost positively identifies him with this family, since that is where they lived according to several documented sources.
On 26 August 1864 a John Kammerdiener enlisted at Alliance, Ohio for one year. The papers indicated that he was born in New York City about 1836, which is correct for this person. He was married on 30 August to Rachael Hofmann, and the following day they sold a parcel of land that Rachael had received from her father to her brother. He mustered in to Company K, 115th Regiment Ohio Infantry at Columbus, Ohio on 3 Feb 1865. He only served until 22 Jun 1865, when he was mustered out at Murfreesboro, Tennessee. John and Rachael bought the same land back from her brother in Jun of 1866.
While one might question whether these two are the same person, consider the circumstances. Many other immigrants from the Herschberg, Germany area settled in Stark County, Ohio, just north of Alliance, in the 1830s. John's aunt and uncle, Louisa and Michael Dreher, lived there with their two sons. A John Kammerdiener was found in the 1870 census of Stark County with his new wife, Rachael Hofmann, whose parents were also immigrants from the same area. The widow's pension record for John's second wife mentions the first wife Rachael. I am most certain that John first enlisted for the Civil War in New York City. When he deserted his unit, it is possible that he went to Ohio to be with his relatives, and to avoid prosecution in New York City. Apparently later in the war he had second thoughts and reenlisted.
John's later life can be documented from his pension file and the widow's pension file of his second wife, as well as New York City records. Apparently John and Rachael moved back to New York City after 1870, where they divorced in 1883. Rachael sold her land in Stark County in December of 1883. I could not find them in the 1880 census of New York City or Stark County. John married Amelia Wolf in 1885 in New York City and they had at least one child. There is no indication that he had any children with Rachel.
In 1890 John began to apply for a disability pension, but for several years failed to convince the government that he qualified. His address changed frequently during the years 1890 - 1900, but they were all locations close to Willet Street in the German 11th ward of the city. By 1900 he had already been receiving a pension, since he filed for an increase at that time. At his death in 1910 he was being paid $20 per month.
After John's death, his second wife Amelia applied for a widows pension for herself and a minor child. She initially had trouble getting approval, because there was some question about the legality of their marriage while John's first wife Rachael was living. After Rachael's death in 1904, there was a question about whether John and Amelia ever legalized their marriage. Regardless, Amelia's application was finally accepted and she received up to $30 per month at the time of her death. At that time she was living in Malden, Massachusetts, which is where their son John lived with his wife. I have not been able to discover whether there were any descendents from John Kammerdiener, Jr.
Family | John Kammerdiener b. 5 May 1836, d. 21 Jun 1910 |
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Citations
- [S382] U.S. census record, Individual entry.
- [S747] New York City marriage records: entry for John Kammerdiener and Amelia Wolf, 9 Aug 1885, Family History Library, Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints, 33 N. West Temple St., Salt Lake City, UT.
- [S706] New York City Groom Index.
- [S1191] Dutch Reformed Records, Death entry, East 68th Street Church.
- [S447] New York City Death Index, Molly Kammerdiner, Queens #3567.
- [S744] Green-Wood Cemetery burial records, Molly Kammerdiner.
- [S746] "John Kammerdiner pension."
John Phillip Kammerdiener
M, b. 14 October 1893, d. June 1979
Father | John Kammerdiener b. 5 May 1836, d. 21 Jun 1910 |
Mother | Amelia Wolf b. c 1862, d. 17 Aug 1924 |
John Phillip Kammerdiener was born on 14 October 1893 at NY.1,2,3,4 He was a porter in a department store in 1910. He married Mary Conlin, daughter of Philip Conlin and Catharine Sweeney, on 30 September 1913 at Kings Co., NY.5,4,3 John Phillip Kammerdiener lived in 1917 at 330 Bryant St., Malden, Middlesex Co., MA.4 He was a salesman in 1917.4 He was a salesman for a laundry in 1930. He was a real estate salesman in 1942.2 He lived in 1942 at 4533 215th St., Bayside, Queens Co., NY.2 He married Natalie Scibelli on 8 January 1943 at Greenwich, Fairfield Co., CT. John Phillip Kammerdiener was buried in June 1979 at Mount Saint Mary's Cemetery, Flushing, Queens Co., NY.6 He lived in June 1979 at Flushing, Queens Co., NY.1 He died in June 1979 at age 85.1
Family 1 | Mary Conlin b. c Oct 1898 |
Family 2 | Natalie Scibelli b. 1909, d. 4 Mar 2002 |
Citations
- [S328] SSDI, Death entry, 127-12-0850.
- [S453] WWII Draft Registration, John Phillip Kammerdiner.
- [S382] U.S. census record, Individual entry.
- [S295] WWI Draft Registration, John J. Kanmerdiner, 5 Jun 1917.
- [S1089] New York, New York City Marriage Records, marriage entry, Kings, #10183.
- [S1063] Findagrave, online findagrave.com, FindAGrave #176728090.
Alfred Bauer
M, b. circa 1914
Father | John Bauer b. c 1883 |
Mother | Mary Gutrie b. c May 1883 |
Alfred Bauer was born circa 1914.1 He was a mail clerk in an insurance company in 1930.
Citations
- [S382] U.S. census record, Individual entry.
Lillian Hurley
F, b. circa 1921
Father | Frank Hurley b. c 1894 |
Mother | Anna Kammerdener b. c Nov 1894 |
Lillian Hurley was born circa 1921 at NY.1
Citations
- [S382] U.S. census record, Individual entry.
Mabel Hurley
F, b. circa 1928
Father | Frank Hurley b. c 1894 |
Mother | Anna Kammerdener b. c Nov 1894 |
Mabel Hurley was born circa 1928 at NY.1
Citations
- [S382] U.S. census record, Individual entry.
Mary Conlin
F, b. circa October 1898
Father | Philip Conlin |
Mother | Catharine Sweeney |
Mary Conlin was born circa October 1898 at NY.1 She married John Phillip Kammerdiener, son of John Kammerdiener and Amelia Wolf, on 30 September 1913 at Kings Co., NY.2,3,1
Family | John Phillip Kammerdiener b. 14 Oct 1893, d. Jun 1979 |
Josephine Farley
F, b. 21 July 1898, d. November 1989
Father | Thomas Farley b. c Mar 1866 |
Mother | Mary (?) b. c Jul 1868 |
Josephine Farley was born on 21 July 1898 at NY.1,2 She married Frederick Kammerdener, son of Charles Kammerdener and Lena Eberlein, on 30 June 1929 at Kings Co., NY.3 Josephine Farley died in November 1989 at age 91.1
Family | Frederick Kammerdener b. 29 Oct 1903, d. 6 Jan 1975 |
Thomas Farley
M, b. circa March 1866
Thomas Farley was born circa March 1866 at Northern Ireland.1 He married Mary (?) circa 1890.1 Thomas Farley was a laborer for the highway department in 1930.
Family | Mary (?) b. c Jul 1868 |
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Citations
- [S382] U.S. census record, Individual entry.
Christian W. Krug
M, b. circa 1877
Christian W. Krug was born circa 1877 at NY.1 He married Elizabeth Kammerdiener, daughter of Frederick Kammerdiener and Josephine Swizler, on 30 May 1909 at Kings Co., NY.2,1 Christian W. Krug was a ship fitter in the navy yard in 1910. He was an acetylene burner in a ship yard in 1920. He was an insurance broker in 1930.
Family | Elizabeth Kammerdiener b. c Aug 1886 |
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Katherine Krug
F, b. circa 1912
Father | Christian W. Krug b. c 1877 |
Mother | Elizabeth Kammerdiener b. c Aug 1886 |
Katherine Krug was born circa 1912 at NY.1 She was a stenographer in 1930.
Citations
- [S382] U.S. census record, Individual entry.
Marguerite Krug
F, b. circa 1919
Father | Christian W. Krug b. c 1877 |
Mother | Elizabeth Kammerdiener b. c Aug 1886 |
Marguerite Krug was born circa 1919 at NY.1
Citations
- [S382] U.S. census record, Individual entry.
(?) Gerold
M, d. before 1930
Family | Josephine Swizler b. c Mar 1858, d. a 1930 |
Citations
- [S382] U.S. census record, Individual entry.
Stephen M. Harvey
M, b. circa 1894
Father | Edwin Harvey b. c 1866 |
Stephen M. Harvey was born circa 1894 at NY.1 He married Cecelia Bertha Kammerdiener, daughter of Henry Kammerdiener and Anna Grace Petersen, on 5 June 1915 at Kings Co., NY.2,1 Stephen M. Harvey was a word blocker for an electrotype in 1920. He was a milkman in 1930.
Family | Cecelia Bertha Kammerdiener b. c Apr 1897 |
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Grace J. Harvey
F, b. circa 1918
Father | Stephen M. Harvey b. c 1894 |
Mother | Cecelia Bertha Kammerdiener b. c Apr 1897 |
Grace J. Harvey was born circa 1918 at NY.1
Citations
- [S382] U.S. census record, Individual entry.
Evelyn L. Harvey
F, b. circa 1923
Father | Stephen M. Harvey b. c 1894 |
Mother | Cecelia Bertha Kammerdiener b. c Apr 1897 |
Evelyn L. Harvey was born circa 1923 at NY.1
Citations
- [S382] U.S. census record, Individual entry.
Edwin Harvey
M, b. circa 1866
Edwin Harvey was born circa 1866 at NY.1
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Citations
- [S382] U.S. census record, Individual entry.
Augusta Nadebor
F, b. 23 March 1876, d. December 1966
Father | Moritz Nadebor b. c 1841, d. 19 Apr 1891 |
Mother | Charlotte Kammerdiener b. 3 Jan 1842, d. Jan 1899 |
Augusta Nadebor was born on 23 March 1876 at New York, New York Co., NY; Her birth date was recorded as 24 March in the Social Security Death Index.1,2,3 She married Henry Metzler on 21 October 1899 at New York Co., NY.4 Augusta Nadebor was an operator in a factory in 1910. She lived in December 1966 at Brooklyn, Kings Co., NY.3 She died in December 1966 at NY at age 90.3
Family | Henry Metzler b. 15 Feb 1876, d. 13 Jul 1937 |
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Henry Metzler
M, b. 15 February 1876, d. 13 July 1937
Henry Metzler was born on 15 February 1876 at NY.1,2 He married Augusta Nadebor, daughter of Moritz Nadebor and Charlotte Kammerdiener, on 21 October 1899 at New York Co., NY.3 Henry Metzler was a truck driver in 1900. He was a driver for a wholesale grocery in 1910. He lived in 1918 at 152 Avenue C., New York, New York Co., NY.1 He was a driver in 1918.1 He was a truck driver in 1920. He was a laborer in the custom house in 1930. He died on 13 July 1937 at Queens Co., NY, at age 61.4
Family | Augusta Nadebor b. 23 Mar 1876, d. Dec 1966 |
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Annette Pauline Pape Nadebor
F, b. 20 January 1884, d. 5 July 1959
Father | Moritz Nadebor b. c 1841, d. 19 Apr 1891 |
Mother | Charlotte Kammerdiener b. 3 Jan 1842, d. Jan 1899 |
Lena Nadebor
F, b. 25 February 1870, d. 28 January 1933
Father | Moritz Nadebor b. c 1841, d. 19 Apr 1891 |
Mother | Charlotte Kammerdiener b. 3 Jan 1842, d. Jan 1899 |
Lena Nadebor was born on 25 February 1870 at New York, New York Co., NY.1,2,3 She was baptized as Anna Magdalena Nadebor on 20 March 1870 at Madison Street German Presbyterian Church, New York, New York Co., NY. Frederick Kammerdiener, Adam Kammerdiener and Lena Denzler sponsored the baptism.1 Lena Nadebor married Henry Jacob Klein on 14 May 1890 at New York Co., NY.4,3 Lena Nadebor was a janitress in a tenement house in 1920. She died on 28 January 1933 at Kings Co., NY, at age 62.5 She was buried on 1 February 1933 at Green-Wood Cemetery, Brooklyn, Kings Co., NY.6
Family | Henry Jacob Klein b. c Nov 1869, d. 18 Jun 1946 |
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Citations
- [S716] Madison Street German Presbyterian church book.
- [S704] NewFamilySearch Database, Individual entry, Linor Nadebor.
- [S382] U.S. census record, Individual entry.
- [S707] New York City Bride Index, Lena Nadebor, Manhattan #5833.
- [S447] New York City Death Index, Lena Klein, Kings #2703.
- [S744] Green-Wood Cemetery burial records, Lena Klein.
Henry Jacob Klein
M, b. circa November 1869, d. 18 June 1946
Henry Jacob Klein was born circa November 1869 at NY.1 He married Lena Nadebor, daughter of Moritz Nadebor and Charlotte Kammerdiener, on 14 May 1890 at New York Co., NY.2,1 Henry Jacob Klein was a teamster in 1900. He was a laborer at odd jobs in 1910. He was a driver for a trucking company in 1920. He was a steamfitter in a factory in 1930. He died on 18 June 1946 at Kings Co., NY.3 He was buried on 22 June 1946 at Green-Wood Cemetery, Brooklyn, Kings Co., NY.4
Family | Lena Nadebor b. 25 Feb 1870, d. 28 Jan 1933 |
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William Charles Klein
M, b. 21 February 1891, d. 15 April 1969
Father | Henry Jacob Klein b. c Nov 1869, d. 18 Jun 1946 |
Mother | Lena Nadebor b. 25 Feb 1870, d. 28 Jan 1933 |
William Charles Klein was born on 21 February 1891 at New York, New York Co., NY.1,2,3,4 He was a wagon driver for an express company in 1910. He married May (?) William Charles Klein was a teamster in 1917.1 He lived in 1917 at 276 Gold St., Brooklyn, Kings Co., NY.1 He was a stevedore in 1920. He was a guard for the railroad in 1930. He lived on 15 April 1969 at Clearwater, Pinellas Co., FL.2 He died on 15 April 1969 at age 78.2
Family | May (?) b. c 1892, d. b 1930 |
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Charlotte Klein
F, b. circa May 1896
Father | Henry Jacob Klein b. c Nov 1869, d. 18 Jun 1946 |
Mother | Lena Nadebor b. 25 Feb 1870, d. 28 Jan 1933 |
Charlotte Klein was born circa May 1896 at NY.1 She was a stock clerk in a paint company in 1920.
Citations
- [S382] U.S. census record, Individual entry.
Ethel Klein
F, b. circa January 1899
Father | Henry Jacob Klein b. c Nov 1869, d. 18 Jun 1946 |
Mother | Lena Nadebor b. 25 Feb 1870, d. 28 Jan 1933 |
Ethel Klein was born circa January 1899 at NY.1 She was a weaver in a silk mill in 1920.
Citations
- [S382] U.S. census record, Individual entry.
Charles Klein
M, b. circa 1903
Father | Henry Jacob Klein b. c Nov 1869, d. 18 Jun 1946 |
Mother | Lena Nadebor b. 25 Feb 1870, d. 28 Jan 1933 |
Charles Klein was born circa 1903 at NY.1 He was a helper in a trucking company in 1920.
Citations
- [S382] U.S. census record, Individual entry.
May Klein
F, b. circa 1904
Father | Henry Jacob Klein b. c Nov 1869, d. 18 Jun 1946 |
Mother | Lena Nadebor b. 25 Feb 1870, d. 28 Jan 1933 |
May Klein was born circa 1904 at NY.1 She was an operator at a factory in 1930.
Citations
- [S382] U.S. census record, Individual entry.
Chester Klein
M, b. circa 1909
Father | Henry Jacob Klein b. c Nov 1869, d. 18 Jun 1946 |
Mother | Lena Nadebor b. 25 Feb 1870, d. 28 Jan 1933 |
Chester Klein was born circa 1909 at NY.1
Citations
- [S382] U.S. census record, Individual entry.
Ethel Klein
F, b. circa 1917
Father | William Charles Klein b. 21 Feb 1891, d. 15 Apr 1969 |
Mother | May (?) b. c 1892, d. b 1930 |
Ethel Klein was born circa 1917 at NY.1
Citations
- [S382] U.S. census record, Individual entry.
Agnes Klein
F, b. circa 1919
Father | William Charles Klein b. 21 Feb 1891, d. 15 Apr 1969 |
Mother | May (?) b. c 1892, d. b 1930 |
Agnes Klein was born circa 1919 at NY.1
Citations
- [S382] U.S. census record, Individual entry.