Anna Maria Elizabeth Sechrist1
F, b. 22 April 1892, d. circa 1959
Anna Maria Elizabeth
Sechrist was born on 22 April 1892 at Union Twp., Snyder Co., PA.
2,3,4,5,6 She was baptized on 24 August 1893 at Northumberland, Northumberland Co., PA.
2 She married
George Frick Kistner, son of
Martin L. Kistner and
Sarah Catharine Moyer, on 16 May 1908 at the parsonage of Northumberland Methodist Church, Northumberland, Northumberland Co., PA; Married with the consent of William Sechrist.
3,5 Anna Maria Elizabeth Sechrist was buried circa 1959 at Northumberland Memorial Park, Shamokin Twp., Northumberland Co., PA.
5 She died circa 1959 at Northumberland, Northumberland Co., PA.
5
Citations
- 1900, 1910, 1920, 1930 Northumberland, Northumberland, PA.
- [S199] St. John's baptisms, Anna Maria E. Secrist.
- [S339] Northumberland County (PA) marriage records: Kistner/Sechrist, Vol. 15, p. 480.
- [S382] U.S. census record, Individual entry.
- [S178] Anna Elizabeth Kistner obituary, Sunbury Daily Item.
- [S531] Jo Simpson, "Jo Simpson notes."
Margaret Claire Fisher1
F, b. circa 1888, d. 30 May 1915
Margaret Claire
Fisher was born circa 1888 at Northumberland, Northumberland Co., PA.
3,4,5 She married
Jacob Harry Sechrist, son of
William Irwin Sechrist and
Elmira Matilda Bitner, on 28 April 1906 at Northumberland, Northumberland Co., PA; Married with the consent of William I. Sechrist and H. L. Fisher.
6,3,7 Margaret Claire Fisher died on 30 May 1915.
8,9 She was buried in June 1915 at Riverview Cemetery, Northumberland, Northumberland Co., PA.
9
Family | Jacob Harry Sechrist b. 24 Jun 1885, d. 1961 |
Children | - Charles Henry Sechrist b. c 1907
- Clair Sechrist b. c 1911
- Ruth Sechrist b. c 1913
|
Citations
- 1910 Northumberland, Northumberland, PA.
- [S339] Northumberland County (PA) marriage records: Vol. 14, p. 176.
- [S339] Northumberland County (PA) marriage records: Sechrist/Fisher, Vol. 14, p. 176.
- [S339] Northumberland County (PA) marriage records: Sechrist/Brownwell, Vol. 41, p. 686.
- [S382] U.S. census record, Individual entry.
- [S200] St. John's marriages, Sechrist/Fisher.
- [S531] Jo Simpson, "Jo Simpson notes."
- [S339] Northumberland County (PA) marriage records: Sechrist/Holzinger, Vol. 45, p. 51.
- [S172] Riverview Cemetery records.
Henry G. Sechrist1
M, b. circa 1839
Henry G.
Sechrist was born circa 1839 at PA.
2 He married
Catharine Haines. Henry G. Sechrist was a farmer in 1880.
Citations
- 1880 Union, Snyder, PA.
- [S382] U.S. census record, Individual entry.
Catharine Haines1
F, b. circa 1851
Citations
- 1880 Union, Snyder, PA.
- [S382] U.S. census record, Individual entry.
Frank C. Schrey1
M, b. circa 1904, d. 18 March 1953
Frank C.
Schrey was born circa 1904 at PA.
2 He was a farm laborer between 1920 and 1930. He died on 18 March 1953; Another entry lists his death date as 17 March.
3
Citations
- 1910, 1920, 1930 Union, Snyder, PA.
- [S382] U.S. census record, Individual entry.
- [S513] St. Paul's (Verdilla) church records, Book 2, p. 14, 55.
Mae Elizabeth Schrey1
F, b. 12 May 1910, d. 7 December 1966
Mae Elizabeth
Schrey was born on 12 May 1910 at PA.
2,3,4,5 She was baptized on 2 October 1910 at St. Paul's (Keiser's) Evangelical & Reformed Church, Union Twp., Snyder Co., PA.
4 She married
Harry Alfred Varner, son of
John Varner and
Ida Bell, after 1930.
6 Mae Elizabeth Schrey left a will on 12 February 1952 at Middleburg, Snyder Co., PA.
6 She died on 7 December 1966 at age 56.
6,3,5 She was buried in December 1966 at Fairview (Keiser's) Cemetery, Union Twp., Snyder Co., PA.
3,5
Family | Harry Alfred Varner b. 30 Apr 1902, d. 8 Jun 1983 |
Children | - Desna N. Varner b. a 1930
- Wilella E. Varner b. 4 Mar 1941
|
Citations
- 1920, 1930 Union, Snyder, PA.
- [S382] U.S. census record, Individual entry.
- [S513] St. Paul's (Verdilla) church records, Book 2, p. 26, 56.
- [S513] St. Paul's (Verdilla) church records, Book 1, p. 26.
- [S515] Fairview (Keiser's) Cemetery inscriptions.
- [S352] Mae Elizabeth Varner will.
Henry L. Fisher1,2
M, b. circa 1852
Henry L.
Fisher married
Emma J. (?)2 Henry L. Fisher was born circa 1852 at PA; census. He was a carpenter in 1910. He was a carpenter in 1920.
Citations
- 1910 Northumberland, 1920, 1930.
- [S339] Northumberland County (PA) marriage records: Vol. 14, p. 176.
Carrie E. Heim
F, b. 1879, d. 27 March 1939
Carrie E.
Heim was born in 1879 at Washington Twp., Northumberland Co., PA.
2,3,4 She married an unknown person before 1920.
2 She and an unknown person were divorced on 16 August 1920.
2 She married
Harvey Adam Bitner, son of
George Bitner and
Susan Brensinger, on 27 September 1926 at Sunbury, Northumberland Co., PA.
2,4 Carrie E. Heim died on 27 March 1939.
3,5 She was buried in 1939 at Riverview Cemetery, Northumberland, Northumberland Co., PA.
3,5
Citations
- [S339] Northumberland County (PA) marriage records: Vol. 39, p. 34.
- [S339] Northumberland County (PA) marriage records: Bitner/Heim, Vol. 39, p. 34.
- [S343] Riverview Cemetery, Carrie E. Bitner tombstone.
- [S382] U.S. census record, Individual entry.
- [S172] Riverview Cemetery records.
Elizabeth Meiser1
F, b. June 1839
Elizabeth
Meiser was born in June 1839 at PA.
2 She married
Henry W. Reinard circa 1853; census.
Citations
- 1900 Union.
- [S382] U.S. census record, Individual entry.
George Walter Schrey1
M, b. 26 April 1897, d. August 1968
George Walter
Schrey was born on 26 April 1897 at PA.
2,3,4,5 He married
Blanch Hazel Fisher, daughter of
Ammon Fisher and
Frances Matilda Burns, circa 1917.
5 George Walter Schrey was a farmer between 1918 and 1930.
3 He died in August 1968 at Selinsgrove, Snyder Co., PA, at age 71.
2,4 He was buried in August 1968 at St. Paul's Evangelical Lutheran Church Cemetery, Penn Twp., Snyder Co., PA.
4,6
Citations
- 1900, 1910 Union, Snyder, PA; 1920, 1930 Penn, Snyder, PA.
- [S328] SSDI, Death entry, 207-30-2948.
- [S295] WWI Draft Registration, George Walter Schrey, 5 Jun 1918.
- [S346] St. Paul's Evangelical Lutheran Church Cemetery, George W. Schrey tombstone.
- [S382] U.S. census record, Individual entry.
- [S517] St. Paul's Lutheran (Middlecreek) Cemetery inscriptions.
Blanch Hazel Fisher1
F, b. 17 May 1895, d. 26 August 1981
Blanch Hazel
Fisher was born on 17 May 1895 at PA.
2,3,4 She married
George Walter Schrey, son of
Charles William Schrey and
Agnes Amelia Reinard, circa 1917.
4 Blanch Hazel Fisher died on 26 August 1981 at age 86.
2,5,3 She was buried in August 1981 at St. Paul's Evangelical Lutheran Church Cemetery, Penn Twp., Snyder Co., PA.
5,3
Citations
- 1920, 1930 Penn, Snyder, PA.
- [S328] SSDI, Death entry, 167-50-7177.
- [S517] St. Paul's Lutheran (Middlecreek) Cemetery inscriptions.
- [S382] U.S. census record, Individual entry.
- [S346] St. Paul's Evangelical Lutheran Church Cemetery, Blanche H. Schrey tombstone.
William Fisher Schrey1
M, b. 12 June 1918, d. April 1976
William Fisher
Schrey was born on 12 June 1918 at PA.
2,3,4 He married
Sarah Ellen Fisher, daughter of Adam S.
Fisher and Elizabeth
Bickhart.
5 William Fisher Schrey left a will on 14 May 1966 at Middleburg, Snyder Co., PA.
6 He died in April 1976 at age 57.
2,3 He was buried in April 1976 at St. Paul's Evangelical Lutheran Church Cemetery, Penn Twp., Snyder Co., PA.
3,7
Family 1 | Sarah Ellen Fisher b. 1912, d. 1962 |
Children | - Jean Elizabeth Schrey
- Beverly Ann Schrey
|
Citations
- 1920, 1930 Penn, Snyder, PA.
- [S328] SSDI, Death entry, 165-16-1698.
- [S346] St. Paul's Evangelical Lutheran Church Cemetery, William F. Schrey tombstone.
- [S382] U.S. census record, Individual entry.
- [S346] St. Paul's Evangelical Lutheran Church Cemetery, Sarah E. Schrey tombstone.
- [S354] William F. Schrey will.
- [S517] St. Paul's Lutheran (Middlecreek) Cemetery inscriptions.
Clarence G. Bittner1
M, b. 24 October 1891
Clarence G.
Bittner was born on 24 October 1891 at Tallmadge, Summit Co., OH.
2,3,4 He worked at the Kasch Rubber Company in 1909.
5 He worked at the D. Rubber Company in 1912.
5 He was a tire builder in 1913.
6 He worked at the Swineheart Company between 1913 and 1914.
5 He married
Lenora I. Marquette, daughter of
George Marquette and
Jemima Smith, circa 28 October 1913.
6,3 Clarence G. Bittner worked at the Mohawk Rubber Company between 1915 and 1918.
5 He was a tire puller for rubber company between 1920 and 1930.
Citations
- 1900 Portage, Summit, OH; 1910, 1920, 1930 Akron, Summit, OH.
- [S261] Summit County (OH) birth records: Clarence Bittner, 3-13.
- [S382] U.S. census record, Individual entry.
- [S295] WWI Draft Registration, Clarence Bittner, 5 Jun 1917.
- [S292] Akron (OH) Directory.
- [S260] Summit County (OH) marriage records: Bittner/Marquette, 24-73, marriage not recorded.
Lenora I. Marquette1,2
F, b. 4 November 1893
Citations
- 1920, 1930 Akron, Summit, OH.
- [S260] Summit County (OH) marriage records: Bittner/Marquette, 24-73, marriage not recorded.
- [S382] U.S. census record, Individual entry.
Maxine Delores Bittner1
F, b. 10 February 1914, d. 6 November 1978
Maxine Delores
Bittner was born on 10 February 1914 at OH.
2,3,4 She died on 6 November 1978 at Los Angeles, Los Angeles Co., CA, at age 64.
2,4
Family | Alfred Pett |
Children | - Alfred James Pett b. 22 Feb 1947
- Christopher Neil Pett b. 26 Nov 1951
|
Citations
- 1920 Akron, Summit, OH.
- [S328] SSDI, Death entry, 298-03-0694.
- [S382] U.S. census record, Individual entry.
- [S477] California Death Index, Death entry, Maxine Delores Pett.
Susie Poules1,2
F, b. 9 October 1866, d. 29 November 1929
Susie
Poules was born on 9 October 1866 at Coventry Twp., Summit Co., OH.
3,4,2 She married
Leroy Dreese circa 1885.
2,5 Susie Poules and Leroy
Dreese were divorced before 1901.
2 Susie Poules married
William S. Bittner, son of
Casper Bittner and
Mary Amanda Gemberling, on 17 September 1901 at Summit Co., OH; This was the third marriage for the bride.
2,5 Susie Poules died on 29 November 1929 at Chippewa Twp., Wayne Co., OH, at age 63.
4,3 She was buried on 1 December 1929 at Restland Cemetery, Brimfield, Portage Co., OH.
4,3
Citations
- 1900 Akron 5B, Summit, OH; 1910, 1920 Norton, Summit, OH.
- [S260] Summit County (OH) marriage records: Bittner/Dreese, 12-344.
- [S202] Restland Cemetery, Susie Bittner tombstone.
- [S556] Ohio Death Certificates, Ohio Department of Health, Mrs. Susie Bittner, cert #74006, Geo. R. Bittner, informant.
- [S382] U.S. census record, Individual entry.
Elizabeth Lemke1
F, b. 26 March 1881, d. 4 October 1937
Elizabeth
Lemke was born on 26 March 1881 at Akron, Summit Co., OH.
2,3,4 She married
George Royal Bittner, son of
Casper Bittner and
Mary Amanda Gemberling, circa 1902.
4,2 Elizabeth Lemke died on 4 October 1937 at 1722 19th St., Cuyahoga Falls, Summit Co., OH, at age 56.
2,3 She was buried on 14 October 1937 at Restland Cemetery, Brimfield, Portage Co., OH.
2,3
Citations
- 1910, 1920, 1930 Akron, Summit, OH.
- [S202] Restland Cemetery, Elizabeth Bittner tombstone.
- [S556] Ohio Death Certificates, Ohio Department of Health, Elizabeth Bittner, cert #65704, Geo. R. Bittner, informant.
- [S382] U.S. census record, Individual entry.
Mamie Inez Whitcraft1,2
F, b. 9 January 1871, d. 13 July 1939
Mamie Inez
Whitcraft was born on 9 January 1871 at Bath Twp., Summit Co., OH; Her birth date would be 23 Oct 1873 as calculated from her marriage certificate.
3,2,4 She married
Phares C. Bittner, son of
Casper Bittner and
Mary Amanda Gemberling, on 3 January 1903 at Summit Co., OH.
3,5,6 Mamie Inez Whitcraft died on 13 July 1939 at Silver Lake, Summit Co., OH, at age 68.
4,2 She was buried on 15 July 1939 at Restland Cemetery, Brimfield, Portage Co., OH.
4,7 Her estate was probated in 1944 at Akron, Summit Co., OH.
8
Citations
- 1900 Akron Ward 4, Summit, OH; 1910 Akron 1F, Summit, OH; 1930 Silver Lake, Summit, OH.
- [S202] Restland Cemetery, Mamie I. Bittner tombstone.
- [S937] Ohio County Marriages, Birth entry, Franklin Boatner - Inez Kraft.
- [S556] Ohio Death Certificates, Ohio Department of Health, Mamie Inie Bittner, cert #45551, Mrs. Edna Young, informant.
- [S202] Restland Cemetery, Farris C. Bittner tombstone.
- [S382] U.S. census record, Individual entry.
- [S202] Restland Cemetery, Mammie I. Bittner tombstone.
- [S273] Mamie Bittner probate.
Milo John Zimmerman1
M, b. 8 June 1895, d. 5 December 1976
Milo John
Zimmerman was born on 8 June 1895 at Ragersville, Tuscarawas Co., OH.
5,3,6,7,8 He was a self employed real estate agent in 1917.
6 He began military service on 25 July 1918 at Naval Auxiliary Reserve, Cleveland, Cuyahoga Co., OH.
9 He married
Laura May Bittner, daughter of
Casper Bittner and
Mary Amanda Gemberling, on 2 November 1922 at Zanesville, Muskingum Co., OH.
3 Milo John Zimmerman was a painter in 1928.
10 He was a contractor for building company in 1930. He was the president and treasurer of Truck Owner's Freight Company in 1935.
10 He was the executor of
Phares C. Bittner's estate in 1962 at Akron, Summit Co., OH.
11 Milo John Zimmerman died on 5 December 1976 at Akron, Summit Co., OH, at age 81.
5,12,8 He was buried in 1976 at Rose Hill Cemetery, Montrose, Summit Co., OH.
13
Citations
- 1920, Akron, Summit, OH; 1930 Cuyahoga Falls, Summit, OH.
- [S203] International Genealogical Index (IGI), Milo John Zimmerman entry.
- [S260] Summit County (OH) marriage records: Zimmerman/Bittner, 41-551.
- [S259] Zimmerman Family History.
- [S328] SSDI, Death entry, 298-01-6302.
- [S295] WWI Draft Registration, Milo John Zimmerman, 5 Jun 1917.
- [S229] Ohio Military Men, 1917 - 1918, World War I enlistment.
- [S389] Ohio Deaths, Death entry, Milo J. Zimmerman, Volume 22716, Certificate 092542.
- [S229] Ohio Military Men, 1917 - 1918, World War I enlistment, No active duty until 14 Nov 1918. Seaman, Second Class 109 days. Released 27 Feb 1919. Honorable discharge 30 Sept 1921. Lack of funds. Naval Training Station Great Lakes Ill.
- [S292] Akron (OH) Directory.
- [S278] Faries C. Bittner probate.
- [S203] International Genealogical Index (IGI), Milo John Zimmerman entry, Ancestral File, Submission AF90-101545, AF96-100014.
- [S258] Interview, Denise Roe Schultz, 9 August 2003.
Lewis Zimmerman1
M
Citations
- [S203] International Genealogical Index (IGI), Milo John Zimmerman entry.
- [S260] Summit County (OH) marriage records: Zimmerman/Bittner, 41-551.
- [S259] Zimmerman Family History.
Elisabeth Andrews1
F
Citations
- [S203] International Genealogical Index (IGI), Milo John Zimmerman entry.
- [S259] Zimmerman Family History.
- [S260] Summit County (OH) marriage records: Zimmerman/Bittner, 41-551.
Henry W. Reinard1
M, b. March 1836
Henry W.
Reinard was born in March 1836.
2 He married
Elizabeth Meiser circa 1853; census. Henry W. Reinard was a retired in 1900.
Citations
- 1900 Union.
- [S382] U.S. census record, Individual entry.
Johann Jacob Schrayh1
M, b. 10 November 1794, d. 14 October 1846
Johann Jacob
Schrayh was born on 10 November 1794 at Hedelfingen, Neckarkreis, Württemberg, Germany.
2 He married
Louisa Barbara Baisch on 23 January 1819 at Hedelfingen, Neckarkreis, Württemberg, Germany.
1,2 Johann Jacob Schrayh died on 14 October 1846 at Hedelfingen, Neckarkreis, Württemberg, Germany, at age 51.
2
Citations
- [S55] Beers (1898).
- [S526] International Genealogical Index (IGI), Schrayh family entry, film number 537270.
Louisa Barbara Baisch1
F, b. 2 March 1799, d. 26 February 1862
Louisa Barbara
Baisch was born on 2 March 1799 at Hedelfingen, Neckarkreis, Württemberg, Germany.
2 She married
Johann Jacob Schrayh on 23 January 1819 at Hedelfingen, Neckarkreis, Württemberg, Germany.
1,2 Louisa Barbara Baisch died on 26 February 1862 at Unterturkheim, Neckarkreis, Württemberg, Germany, at age 62.
2
Citations
- [S55] Beers (1898).
- [S526] International Genealogical Index (IGI), Schrayh family entry, film number 537270.
William Strauss1,2
M
Citations
- 1850 Upper Tulpehocken, Berks, PA.
- [S55] Beers (1898).
Trixie Bittner1
F, b. 11 December 1920, d. 7 November 1962
Trixie
Bittner was born on 11 December 1920 at Wadsworth, Medina Co., OH.
2,3,4 She was a waitress in 1940.
5 She married
Clyde O. Harmon, son of
Frank Harmon and
Ethel Garnes, on 17 February 1940 at Akron, Summit Co., OH; Married with the consent of the bride's father.
2 Trixie Bittner died on 7 November 1962 at Akron, Summit Co., OH, at age 41.
4
Citations
- 1930 Bath, Summit, OH.
- [S260] Summit County (OH) marriage records: Harmon/Bittner, 81-67.
- [S382] U.S. census record, Individual entry.
- [S389] Ohio Deaths, Death entry, Trixie V. Harmon, Certificate: 85160; Volume: 17099.
- [S292] Akron (OH) Directory.
Caroline Zinn1,2
F, b. circa 1853
Citations
- 1930 Summit Co.
- [S260] Summit County (OH) marriage records: Bittner/Stock, 24-147.
- [S556] Ohio Death Certificates, Ohio Department of Health, Florence M. Bittner, cert #223618, Mason C. Bittner, informant.
- [S382] U.S. census record, Individual entry.
Royal Edward Bittner1
M, b. 11 October 1898, d. 16 December 1936
Royal Edward
Bittner was born on 11 October 1898 at Mogadore, Summit Co., OH; His name was recorded as LeRoy in the birth record. Family notes and his draft registration record his birth as 7 October.
2,3,4,5,6 He was an electrical wireman in 1918.
3 He was an electrician in auto plant in 1920.
7,8 He married
Mildred Cora Love, daughter of
William K. Love and
Bertha E. (?), on 7 October 1920 at Elyria, Lorain Co., OH.
4,6 Royal Edward Bittner was an electrician in a steel plant in 1930. He died on 16 December 1936 at age 38.
5,6,9 He was buried in December 1936 at Camden Cemetery, Camden Twp., Lorain Co., OH.
6
Citations
- 1920, 1930 Elyria, Lorain, OH.
- [S261] Summit County (OH) birth records: volume 3, page 58, Leroy Bittner.
- [S295] WWI Draft Registration, Royal Edward Bittner, 12 Sep 1918.
- [S206] Carol L. Bittner Blanco, "Carol Blanco notes."
- [S207] Beverly J. Bittner DuHadway, "Beverly DuHadway notes."
- [S208] Suzanne Bittner Draper, "Suzanne Draper notes."
- [S294] 8 Oct 1920 obituary, Elyria Chronicle-Telegram.
- [S382] U.S. census record, Individual entry.
- [S294] 18 Dec 1936 obituary, Elyria Chronicle-Telegram.
Mildred Cora Love1
F, b. 16 February 1900, d. 24 February 1989
Mildred Cora
Love was born on 16 February 1900 at Camden Twp., Lorain Co., OH.
2,3,4 She married
Royal Edward Bittner, son of
George Royal Bittner and
Myrtle Zelnar, on 7 October 1920 at Elyria, Lorain Co., OH.
5,2 Mildred Cora Love was a telephone operator on 8 October 1920.
6,4 She married
Walter Slattery after 1937.
2 Mildred Cora Love died on 24 February 1989 at age 89.
5,2,3 She was buried in February 1989 at Camden Cemetery, Camden Twp., Lorain Co., OH.
2
Citations
- 1900 Elyria, Lorain, OH; 1910 Cleveland, Cuyahoga, OH; 1920 (McLove), 1930 Elyria, Lorain, OH.
- [S208] Suzanne Bittner Draper, "Suzanne Draper notes."
- [S328] SSDI, Death entry, 363-28-5235.
- [S382] U.S. census record, Individual entry.
- [S206] Carol L. Bittner Blanco, "Carol Blanco notes."
- [S294] 8 Oct 1920 obituary, Elyria Chronicle-Telegram.
Myrtle Zelnar1
F, b. 28 October 1878, d. 15 March 1945
Myrtle
Zelnar was born on 28 October 1878 at Springfield Twp., Summit Co., OH; Her death certificate recorded her birth date as 20 Nov 1879. Her birth place was recorded as Talmadge, Ohio.
2,3,4 She married
George Royal Bittner, son of
Casper Bittner and
Mary Amanda Gemberling, on 7 April 1898 at Summit Co., OH.
5 Myrtle Zelnar and George Royal
Bittner were divorced on 10 June 1904 at Portage Co., OH.
6 Myrtle Zelnar married
Edward J. Dussel, son of
Peter Dussel and
Mary A. Lowe, on 28 September 1906 at Portage Co., OH.
2,4 Myrtle Zelnar died on 15 March 1945 at Elyria Memorial Hospital, Elyria, Lorain Co., OH, at age 66.
3 She was buried on 19 March 1945 at Nesbett Cemetery, Grafton, Lorain Co., OH.
3
Family 2 | Edward J. Dussel b. 19 Sep 1873 |
Children | - Norman E. Dussel b. c 1913
- Iva M. Dussel b. c 1915
|
Citations
- 1920 Elyria, Lorain, OH; 1930 Lagrange, Lorain, OH.
- [S260] Summit County (OH) marriage records: Dussel/Bittner, 17-197.
- [S556] Ohio Death Certificates, Ohio Department of Health, Myrtle Dussel, cert #16368, Ivah Kinter, informant.
- [S382] U.S. census record, Individual entry.
- [S260] Summit County (OH) marriage records: Bittner/Zelnar, 10-250.
- [S263] Portage County (OH) divorce records: Bittner/Zelnar, case #4826.